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Zoicite☆For all I carry are murdered
I have nothing against republicans and conservatives as a whole, really I don't.

I just get fed up by the fact that they just think that everything should be about them.    Most of the times liberals are 'celebrate diversity' while the entire right movement is 'let's celebrate people like ourselves!' (which sometimes is equivalent to rich, white people, right-wing christian politics.).   I see all of this hatred posted on facebook sites.. community sites devoted to 'christians for Romney' in which they proceed to spread hate and bigotry all across the board.  Seriously, do you really think that Jesus would spout a whole lot of the shit that they proceed to spout?  Do you think Jesus would even -care- about who you voted for?

Personally, I think that if Jesus were around today in the flesh.. he'd care more about how you treated everyone then how you voted. 

There was this one facebook post where it said that Republicans were supposed to vote on tuesday, while Democrats were supposed to vote on wednesday.   Someone asked the poster if they were aware that there were laws against misleading people's votes, and the response was 'lol u stupid liberal'.   WTF, man?

Straight, gay.. conservative, liberal, christian, pagan.. I think that ultimately what it comes down to is that you treat everyone with respect regardless of whether they are like you or not.

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I pretty much agree with what you've said. The world would be such a better place if everyone knew how to respect and interact with anyone different from them.

I agree with you.

We must understand that those people are ignorant and arrogant sheep that wish to be led around and told what to do, because it decreases their anxieties about life in general. When you don't have to think for yourself, suddenly life becomes so much easier, thus they all group together all listen to the same pastors, fox news, same political views, vote for who they are told to vote for, believe what they are told to believe.

Their mind set is this: I am a man/woman. I am a Christian. I love Jesus. People who are not like me are going to hell and they going to ruin this country, turn my kids gay, and I'll see people marrying their dogs next.

This is why I detest organized religion, because I think a relationship with "god" is a personal one, not a fucking public one. I think they should all read the bible themselves privately and come to their own conclusions, and also take into consideration when the Bible was written and by whom. The passage against laying with the same sex had nothing to do with morals. At the time that was written the population growth was low. That was written to tell people to have sex in a way that would birth more children. That was it. Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality. Angels did not even have a fucking gender. It was a story about a city that was controlled by an asshole who did horrible shit. The one guy that wasn't an asshole in the city was saved by choosing to let guards rape his daughters instead of god's fucking messengers. Clearly, who ever really wrote that shit didn't think much of women, nor did the writer think god gave a shit about women either.

The bible also has slavery, passages about killing people who work on sundays, killing witches, men not being able to see a woman while they are on their periods, not being able to eat fucking shell fish, etc, etc.

But in reality most of these shit faced Christians don't even read their own biblical text and they just read what their pastor tells them to read or just listen to what their church tells them it says and what it means. They don't want actually go read and research the meaning for themselves. These people are scared of change, reality, life itself.

The Bible, the Koran, etc are all written by men for men. It doesn't have anything to do with god. It is more philosophical then anything else.

rant rant rant lol

Edited at 2012-10-06 08:05 pm (UTC)

I agree so much with what you and everyone else has said in comments to this post.

I had lots of rage about the election campaigns here (UK) last time around, but seeing how stuff goes in the US, I'm glad that religion isn't a massive point in any campaign here! Though there is still lots of ridiculousness involving class in politics here (am leaving that can of worms on the shelf lol)

Election season is basically a big pain in the ass isn't it? There's too much hate and anti-the-opposing-candidate, along with empty promises with no plans to back them up, and not enough this-is-HOW-we-want-to-improve-things and this-is-why-you-should-vote-for-us

Well the thing about Obama is that he was very upfront with the whole 'change doesn't occur in a day, month or year..' that it is going to take a lot of hard work.. however people are not interested in hard work, they are interested in IMMEDIATE CHANGE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.

People have that attitude here as well, along with moaning about spending cuts (uh hellooo, we're massively in debt?) and the government not keeping all of their election promises (it's a coalition, some of those promises and policies clash = compromise is necessary).

Politics = Hi there head, meet wall and make friends repeatedly.

At least Obama was up front about it. I think the government speech writers here were told to dress the fact up a bit so people didn't notice lol

Adorno, the German Jewish philosopher, once said that there isn't a belief system so pure that cannot be corrupted for selfish aims, and that is as close to a definitive statement about beliefs as I will personally accept. I think that a person who has been tempered by life experience to be selfless, compassionate, just and generous, to live in order to heal and inspire others and bring them joy, will say that their beliefs have led them to that place — whether they believe in Christ, Buddha, Islam, objectivism, communism, Hindu gods, pagan rituals or whatever. Conversely, a cruel and selfish person, someone who is miserly, closed-minded, ignorant, greedy, hateful and fearful will use their beliefs to justify that — even if their behaviour directly contravenes the original essential nature of their beliefs.

I don't know very many people who follow a proscribed set of beliefs like Islam or Catholicism or even atheism (like this manifesto just published today on Salon) who don't try to disavow members who behave badly. They all say that someone who ... cheats, murders, rapes, maims, steals, etc., etc. fill in the blank ... does not belong to their group and isn't a 'true believer/disbeliever'. But they are. They all are.

So, it's not about beliefs. A person can believe anything, or not believe anything. It doesn't matter. What matters in the end is how much we've loved, and how much wisdom we've learned — wisdom being something entirely different than knowledge. The rest is diddly-squat.

urgh. i seriously don't get how there are people with such horrible views anymore.

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