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Zoicite☆For all I carry are murdered

What does my flist feel about the whole 'vic mignogna once again getting his claws into a canonically gay character'?

For anyone who hasn't heard, the most anti-yaoi of the anti-yaoi voice actors, Vic Mignogna, has gotten cast as Greece in the Hetalia dub. For anyone who also doesn't know, Vic tried to tell millions of fangirls that he was the authority on Fai and not CLAMP (and thus insisting that CLAMP would never draw their characters in compromising positions with members of the same sex *cough*)

You know what I think he does? I think he goes in, tries for the gayest character in a series AND THEN HE PLAYS THEM AS STRAIGHT.

Doesn't change my opinion of the characters though. Tamaki was a stretch yes (I will give him Tamaki who could potentially be straight for Haruhi even though I'm much more a fan of his relationship with Kyouya) but Fai was being done in the ass by Kurogane, and I'm pretty sure that's not just a fangirl's opinion, also... Greece and Japan, did it, done it and got a postcard of it to send to relatives back home.

What? You mean having sex with another man if you are a man makes you gay?

We should write him asking if Austria is gay because he lets Hungary do him in the ass with her strap-on. (oh wait, that only happens in my mind)

Though an interesting thought, if Hungary does Austria in the ass with her strap-on, does that make her a gay guy? OH EXISTENTIAL QUESTIONS.

Sigh. I wish he'd stop letting his popularity get to his head :V especially since, well >_>;; good voice acting or not, his re-interpretations of characters don't give him the authority on the matter that he thinks it does -_-

It is sort of depressing that he does seem to end up inflicting his personal beliefs both on his interpretations of the characters -_- and fandom in general, from a place of celebrity.

(and thus insisting that CLAMP would never draw their characters in compromising positions with members of the same sex *cough*)

Though, this really makes me wonder what he thinks the guys are doing in all those pictures then :'( Wrestling for control over the remote control?

"I think that's enough Lifetime Network for you, Subaru. Too much TV is bad for your mind *grin* We wouldn't want Hoshiko to worry~*"

...in any case, I think you might be right hahaha >___>

The thing that I do not like about Vic (and seriously, I could care less if he is a christian, if he's a christian then good on him.. I admire anyone with strong beliefs *if* they have the good sense to not inflict said beliefs on others) is that once he plays a character, he thinks that he is the end-all authority of them.. just like a really elitist RPer who refuses to accept that other people have different interpertations of said character. Or like those fangirls who thought that J/K didn't know how to write her own characters.

Clamp is known for the gay, and in every single series there is at least one gay couple. it doesn't matter what that series is, if it's Clamp, there is gay in it. And it's not just gay, it's fucked up twisted gay.

I'm not familiar with dub voice actors. But that sounds interesting. I mean, the way he insisted that " CLAMP would never draw their characters in compromising positions with members of the same sex". Because I can't help but think the opposite lol Especially when you consider their manga series "Legal Drug" which is labeled as a shounen-ai ha.

Yeah, he considered himself the worthwhile authority on all that Clamp spoke of (I would love to send him a volume of RG Veda and ten ask him what he seriously thought that Taishakuten and Ashura-ou were doing naked in that bed together.)

You know, I'm sure that Tamaki is straight for Haruhi, but that doesn't mean he's completely straight. *does not see how people can play him that way, honestly* And I agree that I like his relationship with Kyouya better.

I don't think Tamaki is completely straight either, there's a healthy dose of gay in him.. because let's face it... the sheer ammount of flower power that Tamaki radiates is not of a heterosexal nature.

I don't think Tamaki has the wits to comprehend what sexuality is, but that's a whole 'nother matter...

As for the whole Greece thing, I'm just loling. This'll be fun to watch play out.

I think you might be right...I can kind of see where he might be trying to play the characters he voices a certain way. O_O;

Yeah, I think that he imposes his own believe systems onto the characters he plays.. instead of for once trying to figure out what the character was doing or thinking or feeling regardless of his own self.

Haha, oooh Vic. I really was only interested in him when he did Edward Elric. And you know, he did a good job on Ed, I can't imagine Ed as anyone else. But, that said, his success with Ed had nothing to do with his own beliefs - I remember being shocked on how he absolutely insisted Ed was not an atheist (even though he IS, he says so in the first episode) and most certainly not gay (even though he's not really straight with any girls). At least, that obnoxious sentiment didn't drain into his voice acting. Now, whenever I hear him, he just sounds like Ed, so it annoys the hell out of me.

Well I liked Ed and I liked Ed's very volatile relationship with Winry. I had no problem with him as a voice actor -until- he really jsut started barging in and insisting that what the characters felt were all apart of his moral system.

Hmmm...you make very valid points.

I am a fan of Vic's works, but I'm thinking that he just has his beliefs, just like everyone else, and he probably follows them to the letter - I wouldn't put a stamp on it and say that he's homophobic or anything like that. I am not one to judge - his beliefs change nothing for me - I still love Fai/Kurogane together (one of my yaoi OTPs) and Greece/Japan Definitely did a little somethin' somethin' XD.

I would say that Tamaki perhaps doesn't let gender change the love that he has - he is just so full of it that it doesn't matter what gender for him - I am personally a fan of both Tamaki/Haruhi and Tamaki/Kyouya :) The dynamics in both of them are just too good to pass up ^^

I would love to comment on this. First of all, though, I think I need to see this image of Fai getting it in the ass from Kurogane. Purely for *cof* research reasons, of course. You do want an *educated* opinion, don't you?

Oh boy, I definitely want a picture of Fai and Kurogane going at it, it is a shame though that there was never any CLAMP doujinshi of the two of them.. they used to do it with their earlier works. Now, not so much. Probably figure tat the fans make enough doujinshi that they don't really have to.

Vic Mignignagnog is a festering boil of uptight Christian Fundimentalist fucktardary. He is also, without a doubt, utterly and completely homosexual.

See, having worked for ADV as both a voice actor and computer guy, I've met most of their long time staff, and Vic has a special habit of going around inflicting his hang-ups on everyone. There are directors that refuse to work with him because of his holier-than-thou attitude.

Vic also has a couple of "secret boyfriends." Oh, sure its just a bunch of guys getting together for poker and beer, but "going and taking a break" doesn't happen without a dick in the mouth or ass.

Squiddy, have I told you lately how much I love you? You don't get that nearly often enough.

I don't like that he imposes his believes on others and really I consider himself to be no better then a screaming yaoi fangirl that insist that Squall and Cloud were doing it. Because in both cases, they are making themselves tons annoying.

Yeah, probably scared that his god might smite him. >.> for you know, being gay. I always got that impression from him, that he had issues with the closet.. but at any rate, I just think that Vic does think that he's better then everyone else, I've heard horror stories of people who have met him at cons.

Vic is such a self-righteous, lying little prick. I'm actually rather amused about his involvement in Hetalia, the show with multiple characters that are canonically gay. I'm ready to laugh my ass off at the shit he comes up with to try to convince everyone that the characters are straight, like when he pretended CLAMP told him Fai was straight. /rolls eyes

I think one of the arguments for that was that any american dubbing studios that deal with CLAMP usually deal with their publicist.. and so why would they send the president of FUNIMATION through their publicist and yet deign to speak to him?

That's why we all on the Clamp comm knew that Vic was lying his ass off.

I think Vic Mignogna is total hypocritical jackass, dissing same-sex relationships while doing EdxRoy yaoi scripts at cons upon request. I don't know. Maybe he's just an attention whore. Maybe he really believes his crap strongly but wants more money so he takes all the characters he can get, regardless of their sexuality. He is, however, talented and I'm not really on the up and up with most voice actors, so I guess I'm apathetic to the whole thing. Its not like he has much sway or power in the first place. LOL

Except that he's not really all that talented as a voice actor. A lot of his voice work is augmented by filters and pitch bending.

Oh, Vic. I've been laughing my ass off about this.
That pathetic little dickdrip isn't worthy of eating Paku Romi's used toilet paper. He was okay as Ed, that's about it. He was second-rate in Air too. Thank God Greece isn't one of my fave APH characters, or I'd probably throw up in my mouth even with the delicious irony.

:/ Ten to one he goes with the whole "It was only a dream!" for the Japan-Greece smexin'. Or some even more ridiculously hilarious denial.

Oh Vic indeed.. oh vic.. *shakes head* his personal canon will once delude him into thinking that he's on name-basis with Kitayume.

Lolz. "No, Fai was just mistaken when he said he didn't believe in God." <--One of the gems he said at a local con.

This guy loooves my hometown con, and he always turns it into church. He's insulted loads of people, but the funny thing is while he was drunk he hit on one of my male gay friends XD (He did look like a girl, then, but still...)

He also yelled at another of my gay friends for making a joke once. They were both on stage for something, and my friend couldn't get the mic to work, so Vic said "you have to hold it next to your mouth" ...my friend (who he didn't know was gay at the time) jokingly gave Vic a look while the crowd giggled..and after the event, Vic pulled him aside and started yelling at him for embarrassing him. :/

Maybe he just picks the atheist and/or gay types so that he can redeem them through his voice acting.

someone needs to do the posting-yaoi-under-vic's-hotel-room-door at the next con he goes to again